A curious conference season courtship ritual was performed by video-link in the heart of Birmingham after Gordon Brown's Brighton speech.
The two parties, desperately keen to be close, but each uncertain how the other would be perceived, chatted amiably enough.
But these things have rules and as trysts go this was a tricky one.
It went along these lines: one suitor, Birmingham Chamber of Commerce and Industry, posed a teaser.
The other, the Government, replied - and then both moved on to other stuff with no further debate.
By mutual consent. Point. Period.
With rules like this the rally would never have been developed in tennis.
So we learned that the Government believes research and development is vital to manufacturing success; that manufacturing industry will not, and should not, compete in low wage terms with economies such as China.
Pension provision was vital and high on the Government's agenda, as was a review of the structuring of business rates and much, much more.
The event at PricewaterhouseCoopers in the city centre was part of a national video- link-up which saw national Chamber of Commerce bosses and business leaders fire over questions to Brighton via a multiple split-screen yesterday.
Competitiveness Minister Barry Gardiner and Skills Minister Phil Hope fielded them.
The city delegation featured representatives from chambers in Birmingham, Coventry and South Staffordshire.
Chairman of the panel Sir Bernard Zissman gave the ministers "five out of ten" and said they appeared to have a sometimes Utopian view of the world.
Perhaps they should talk more.